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	<title>Comments on: Our Rights</title>
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		<title>By: Percy</title>
		<link>http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2009/11/13/our-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>Percy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We know that hookworm eggs need approximately 7-10 days in the right conditions to develop to rhabditiform (L3) larvae. The right conditions are +60% humidity and a temperature between 25-35 degrees. I think Jasper was right when he said cultivating larvae is a bit like brewing beer.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know that hookworm eggs need approximately 7-10 days in the right conditions to develop to rhabditiform (L3) larvae. The right conditions are +60% humidity and a temperature between 25-35 degrees. I think Jasper was right when he said cultivating larvae is a bit like brewing beer.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2009/11/13/our-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AIT is still in business.  Contact them to see what they are doing now re. availability.

I did 10 worms last February, then added 10 more late September.  So 20 total.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AIT is still in business.  Contact them to see what they are doing now re. availability.</p>
<p>I did 10 worms last February, then added 10 more late September.  So 20 total.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2009/11/13/our-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the information. You were lucky to get the worms from AIT before there were problems. I went on their site and it looks like eveything is &quot;as usual&quot; and nothing had occurred......so I wasn&#039;t sure if they were still in business.  By the way....how many worms do you have right now?  I see you do an egg count every so often but was wondering how many you actual had helping you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the information. You were lucky to get the worms from AIT before there were problems. I went on their site and it looks like eveything is &#8220;as usual&#8221; and nothing had occurred&#8230;&#8230;so I wasn&#8217;t sure if they were still in business.  By the way&#8230;.how many worms do you have right now?  I see you do an egg count every so often but was wondering how many you actual had helping you?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2009/11/13/our-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contact AIT to check their status.  You can also go through wormtherapy.com but you need to travel to Tijuana and they only have hookworms (and tapeworms, but you don&#039;t want those).  Check the &quot;worms&quot; link on this site for more info.  I believe there is still a company in Spain, and currently an MS trial at U. of Wisconsin with pig whipworms.

You can also buy pig whipworms (trichuris suis) from ovamed.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contact AIT to check their status.  You can also go through wormtherapy.com but you need to travel to Tijuana and they only have hookworms (and tapeworms, but you don&#8217;t want those).  Check the &#8220;worms&#8221; link on this site for more info.  I believe there is still a company in Spain, and currently an MS trial at U. of Wisconsin with pig whipworms.</p>
<p>You can also buy pig whipworms (trichuris suis) from ovamed.org</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2009/11/13/our-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been some time since anyone has written on this particular blog but I was  wondering where are people getting their worms since they are no longer available through AIT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been some time since anyone has written on this particular blog but I was  wondering where are people getting their worms since they are no longer available through AIT?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian MacLean</title>
		<link>http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2009/11/13/our-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian MacLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also had another thought, but haven&#039;t researched it yet: How about the Christian Scientists? If its relatively easy to identify hookworm eggs under a microscope, it seems like a Christian Scientist (from a multi-generation family of that faith) might be perfectly willing to perform the charitable act of sharing his poop with a movement that may validate his religious beliefs.  Such an act might even fall under the umbrella of &#039;freedom of religion.&#039;  I&#039;ll think more about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also had another thought, but haven&#8217;t researched it yet: How about the Christian Scientists? If its relatively easy to identify hookworm eggs under a microscope, it seems like a Christian Scientist (from a multi-generation family of that faith) might be perfectly willing to perform the charitable act of sharing his poop with a movement that may validate his religious beliefs.  Such an act might even fall under the umbrella of &#8216;freedom of religion.&#8217;  I&#8217;ll think more about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian MacLean</title>
		<link>http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2009/11/13/our-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian MacLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve already expressed my gratitude and thanks to Mr. Lawrence, and don&#039;t blame him much for being bitter. 

But many of us have no information about &#039;adjusted&#039; prices, and can only go on fee structures that are known to be beyond the means of someone already spending similar amounts for annual health insurance which doesn&#039;t cover these treatments.  I, at least, simply can&#039;t afford it.

Common sense also has a hard time reconciling medical taxonomy.  It&#039;s a friggin worm, not a disease, we evolved with it, and it can be killed with a pill. If our government wants to call it a &#039;drug,&#039; or a &#039;device,&#039; and limit its availability to us while taking millions from corporate lobbyists, then they&#039;re going to have people going around them.  

And if Mr. Lawrence tries to use their techniques, he&#039;s going to find people going around him.  The EULA is a good example.  An agreement which can be so absurd in its violation of common sense and fairness it&#039;s not enforceable in many of the courts in the U.S.

That&#039;s a good thing. So the U.S. system has its corruptions, but also some protections left.  It&#039;s not black and white.  Neither are people who want to share helminth eggs, even if they&#039;re American.  

Americans are good at creating DIY (do it yourself) movements to help each other out.  Be it grocery cooperatives or open software movements.  Crying that one&#039;s business is suffering when it had no valid claim on a particular process, vegetable, or worm isn&#039;t going to gain a lot of sympathy.  In this country or out of it.

Good luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already expressed my gratitude and thanks to Mr. Lawrence, and don&#8217;t blame him much for being bitter. </p>
<p>But many of us have no information about &#8216;adjusted&#8217; prices, and can only go on fee structures that are known to be beyond the means of someone already spending similar amounts for annual health insurance which doesn&#8217;t cover these treatments.  I, at least, simply can&#8217;t afford it.</p>
<p>Common sense also has a hard time reconciling medical taxonomy.  It&#8217;s a friggin worm, not a disease, we evolved with it, and it can be killed with a pill. If our government wants to call it a &#8216;drug,&#8217; or a &#8216;device,&#8217; and limit its availability to us while taking millions from corporate lobbyists, then they&#8217;re going to have people going around them.  </p>
<p>And if Mr. Lawrence tries to use their techniques, he&#8217;s going to find people going around him.  The EULA is a good example.  An agreement which can be so absurd in its violation of common sense and fairness it&#8217;s not enforceable in many of the courts in the U.S.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good thing. So the U.S. system has its corruptions, but also some protections left.  It&#8217;s not black and white.  Neither are people who want to share helminth eggs, even if they&#8217;re American.  </p>
<p>Americans are good at creating DIY (do it yourself) movements to help each other out.  Be it grocery cooperatives or open software movements.  Crying that one&#8217;s business is suffering when it had no valid claim on a particular process, vegetable, or worm isn&#8217;t going to gain a lot of sympathy.  In this country or out of it.</p>
<p>Good luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2009/11/13/our-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the record our contract allows our clients to reinfect themselves and their nuclear family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the record our contract allows our clients to reinfect themselves and their nuclear family.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me know when you get your site up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me know when you get your site up.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Lawrence, I welcome your right to reply. I feel some sympathy for your recent plight but it is the corollary of a gamble you took to provide hookworm and whipworm organisms internationally and by delivery from a United States address. If you had remained in Mexico as your former partner has then you would not have faced FDA legislature. 

The reasons why you chose to base your therapy in California are apparently stated as a desire to widen the availability of the organisms to a greater clientele. It would be disingenuous to claim this was purely altruistic and deny the predominant financial and commercial focus of your company. You were in business to solely benefit from a naturally occurring organism that has evolved over millions of years and you should be aware that you cannot own the proprietary rights to a species - unless you uniquely bred it.

Helminthic therapy transcends the scope of your company and the landscape is changing fast. There will no doubt be an underground movement which distributes the worms and unlike narcotic drugs, there will be little harm from their administration. We will further discuss this here.

Good luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Lawrence, I welcome your right to reply. I feel some sympathy for your recent plight but it is the corollary of a gamble you took to provide hookworm and whipworm organisms internationally and by delivery from a United States address. If you had remained in Mexico as your former partner has then you would not have faced FDA legislature. </p>
<p>The reasons why you chose to base your therapy in California are apparently stated as a desire to widen the availability of the organisms to a greater clientele. It would be disingenuous to claim this was purely altruistic and deny the predominant financial and commercial focus of your company. You were in business to solely benefit from a naturally occurring organism that has evolved over millions of years and you should be aware that you cannot own the proprietary rights to a species &#8211; unless you uniquely bred it.</p>
<p>Helminthic therapy transcends the scope of your company and the landscape is changing fast. There will no doubt be an underground movement which distributes the worms and unlike narcotic drugs, there will be little harm from their administration. We will further discuss this here.</p>
<p>Good luck to you.</p>
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