Comments on: We’re on our own in the US with worms http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/ ... a day in the life of Crohn's disease ... Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:57:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Paul Badger http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-956 Paul Badger Tue, 06 Jul 2010 02:29:54 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-956 I can't find the website I just grabbed the following quote from, but if you google around, you'll see that hookworm do not like acid or acid soil. This is just one thought, but perhaps your efforts at incubation have not succeeded because your stool was too acid. You could check this easily with some litmus paper, and correct it with a basic buffer, or just baking soda. The hookworms also apparently don't like salt either, but acid seems to be the larger problem. "The importance of a soil of neutral pH is not just for the egg. juvenile hookworms are also sensitive to high salt concentrations and acidic soil. " I can’t find the website I just grabbed the following quote from, but if you google around, you’ll see that hookworm do not like acid or acid soil.

This is just one thought, but perhaps your efforts at incubation have not succeeded because your stool was too acid. You could check this easily with some litmus paper, and correct it with a basic buffer, or just baking soda. The hookworms also apparently don’t like salt either, but acid seems to be the larger problem.

“The importance of a soil of neutral pH is not just for the egg. juvenile hookworms are also sensitive to high salt concentrations and acidic soil. “

]]> By: paul http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-933 paul Sat, 12 Jun 2010 05:29:10 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-933 http://opensourcehelminththerapy.org/mediawiki2/index.php?title=DIY#Do_It_Yourself_Helminth_Therapy There is also a forum up on yahoo dedicated to incubating hookworm - the link is at the one above I'm glad to see others are trying this. I've got a website with a wiki and forum, up and dedicated to this. Also working on electronics for an automated incubator. I'd love to have help on the website PLEASE just jump right in and start adding or editing. http://opensourcehelminththerapy.org/mediawiki2/index.php?title=DIY#Do_It_Yourself_Helminth_Therapy

There is also a forum up on yahoo dedicated to incubating hookworm – the link is at the one above

I’m glad to see others are trying this. I’ve got a website with a wiki and forum, up and dedicated to this. Also working on electronics for an automated incubator. I’d love to have help on the website PLEASE just jump right in and start adding or editing.

]]> By: michelle http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-874 michelle Wed, 12 May 2010 13:00:03 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-874 Hi Greyson, If I were you I would have a stool test to confirm you are actually infected. If you didn't get a rash of any kind this is a bit worrying, unless you are taking Prednisone,people taking Prednisone are the only ones who have reported no rash. All the symptoms you describe post inoculation could be down to a bug you picked up in Mexico. Good luck. Michelle Hi Greyson,

If I were you I would have a stool test to confirm you are actually infected. If you didn’t get a rash of any kind this is a bit worrying, unless you are taking Prednisone,people taking Prednisone are the only ones who have reported no rash. All the symptoms you describe post inoculation could be down to a bug you picked up in Mexico.
Good luck.

Michelle

]]> By: Frank Song Jr. http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-871 Frank Song Jr. Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:20:23 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-871 The protein or chemical I am talking about is the one that somehow "lullabies" the immun system....So if I isolate the chemical or protein through a column chromatography or HPLC....then maybe people won't have to infect themselves with hookworms, but just inject the protein/chemical....There's still a lot things to research though!! The protein or chemical I am talking about is the one that somehow “lullabies” the immun system….So if I isolate the chemical or protein through a column chromatography or HPLC….then maybe people won’t have to infect themselves with hookworms, but just inject the protein/chemical….There’s still a lot things to research though!!

]]> By: Frank Song Jr. http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-870 Frank Song Jr. Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:18:36 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-870 I'm preparing a research project in order to isolate the chemical or protein (don't know which yet...but if anybody could get me some information on this...then thanks!!) However, I am having troubles obtaining hookworms!...I have reasearched that other nematodes can be a model for hookworms....Also, my idea was to find a model of hookworm that infects insects...Because I am not allowed to use vertebrates in my laboratory, I was trying to find a hookworm or nematode that infects insect. By infecting the insect, I can crush up the insects after infection and research what additional chemical or protein is present by comparing it to crushed up control (an insect without infection and just a plain worm/nematode).....However, the only kind of hookworm that infects insects I have found so far is the nematode that infects fig wasps....I have no idea where I could possibly get these nematodes and fig wasps. If anyone has any suggestions or helpful pointers...then thanks!!!!!! I’m preparing a research project in order to isolate the chemical or protein (don’t know which yet…but if anybody could get me some information on this…then thanks!!) However, I am having troubles obtaining hookworms!…I have reasearched that other nematodes can be a model for hookworms….Also, my idea was to find a model of hookworm that infects insects…Because I am not allowed to use vertebrates in my laboratory, I was trying to find a hookworm or nematode that infects insect. By infecting the insect, I can crush up the insects after infection and research what additional chemical or protein is present by comparing it to crushed up control (an insect without infection and just a plain worm/nematode)…..However, the only kind of hookworm that infects insects I have found so far is the nematode that infects fig wasps….I have no idea where I could possibly get these nematodes and fig wasps. If anyone has any suggestions or helpful pointers…then thanks!!!!!!

]]> By: Trish http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-860 Trish Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:05:36 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-860 I am interested in Greyson's Feb. 16 post. I have similar ailments, pretty severe MCS and am researching helminthic therapy. I am interested in hearing anyone's experience using it to treat chemical sensitivity. Greyson, where are you now with it all? The question I am trying to answer is, are chemical sensitivities a type of allergy? Jasper at AIT seems to think that if they are, the helminth therapy could help me a lot. I am interested in Greyson’s Feb. 16 post. I have similar ailments, pretty severe MCS and am researching helminthic therapy. I am interested in hearing anyone’s experience using it to treat chemical sensitivity. Greyson, where are you now with it all? The question I am trying to answer is, are chemical sensitivities a type of allergy? Jasper at AIT seems to think that if they are, the helminth therapy could help me a lot.

]]> By: admin http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-782 admin Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:32:29 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-782 Let me just note the "rush of relief" DID NOT happen with the first dose, nor did I get the "hookworm high". That was all in subsequent doses. I also barely had a rash the first time, but the rashes get worse with each innoculation. Hopefully you'll start noticing things for the better in another month. It was between months 3-4 that the real improvement began for me. Redosing is much faster in getting relief, though I had 6 weeks of side effects this last time, so it's inconsistent. Good luck! Let me just note the “rush of relief” DID NOT happen with the first dose, nor did I get the “hookworm high”. That was all in subsequent doses. I also barely had a rash the first time, but the rashes get worse with each innoculation.

Hopefully you’ll start noticing things for the better in another month. It was between months 3-4 that the real improvement began for me. Redosing is much faster in getting relief, though I had 6 weeks of side effects this last time, so it’s inconsistent.

Good luck!

]]> By: Greyson http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-780 Greyson Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:55:49 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-780 Regarding your questions: I was treated with 25-30 hookworm for allergies: food, inhalant, and multiple chemical sensitivities (MCS). It's been 8 weeks and I never had a rash, but I did have a terrible migraine 5 days after the hookworms and then I felt I was walking around in a "fog" for about 6 weeks, but that has since lifted. I had a few episodes of diarrhea and constant low-level nausea with slight light-headedness starting 2 weeks after the worms and lasting about a month. It started with waves of nausea where I thought I would vomit for sure, but never did. I had a few of those episodes over the month of nausea. All that has almost all resolved. I never felt the "rush of relief" that you described. I am now at about where I was before the worms, no real relief yet. That does not concern me as the more I read about peoples experiences it seems that real relief is a slow build that is not complete until about month 5 or 6, so I am patient. Regarding your questions: I was treated with 25-30 hookworm for allergies: food, inhalant, and multiple chemical sensitivities (MCS). It’s been 8 weeks and I never had a rash, but I did have a terrible migraine 5 days after the hookworms and then I felt I was walking around in a “fog” for about 6 weeks, but that has since lifted. I had a few episodes of diarrhea and constant low-level nausea with slight light-headedness starting 2 weeks after the worms and lasting about a month. It started with waves of nausea where I thought I would vomit for sure, but never did. I had a few of those episodes over the month of nausea. All that has almost all resolved. I never felt the “rush of relief” that you described. I am now at about where I was before the worms, no real relief yet. That does not concern me as the more I read about peoples experiences it seems that real relief is a slow build that is not complete until about month 5 or 6, so I am patient.

]]> By: admin http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-778 admin Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:25:56 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-778 Thanks for alerting us to it, I hadn't seen it. Great idea! Thanks for alerting us to it, I hadn’t seen it. Great idea!

]]> By: Jacin http://waitingforthecure.com/I/2010/02/08/were-on-our-own-in-the-us-with-worms/comment-page-1/#comment-777 Jacin Sun, 14 Feb 2010 01:13:31 +0000 http://waitingforthecure.com/I/?p=936#comment-777 I noticed that a new Yahoo Group has been created ! "IncubatingHookworm" Subtle name ! Have you guys not seen it ? Why is no one is posting in it ?.... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IncubatingHookworm/ I noticed that a new Yahoo Group has been created !

“IncubatingHookworm”

Subtle name !
Have you guys not seen it ?
Why is no one is posting in it ?….

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IncubatingHookworm/

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